if Europe succumbs to the Jihad, then America won’t stand a chance
“But the civil war won’t start in Sweden. Sweden is too far gone. I think the civil war will appear first in Britain, which has the second-worst conditions. But the British still have a spirit of resistance.”
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Conversations With Fjordman
by Baron Bodissey
by Baron Bodissey
Thursday, May 03, 2007
Over the last two years Gates of Vienna has gradually become more Eurocentric than would be expected of an average American blog. A certain well-known lefty blog — I won’t stoop to name or link it here — has referred to us as “the Eurotrash version of LGF”. And with good reason. Who could disagree?
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Fjordman and I agree that if Europe succumbs to the Jihad, then America won’t stand a chance — if they go down, we go down. We will last longer, but we will face the same fate. The European crisis stands before us to warn America of what is to come.
Our biggest problem isn’t that a crazed horde of mujahideen might have access to French nukes or British military hardware — although that most definitely is an issue for our national security. The real problem is that American political culture is not vastly different from its European counterpart. Their response to the Islamofascist crisis — dhimmitude, collapse, civil war, or a reawakened sense of national purpose — is likely to prefigure our own.
In Fjordman’s opinion, Sweden is more of a basket case than any other European country. Caught in a self-destructive spiral of immigration, high taxation, welfare spending, and denial, it faces a looming catastrophe.
“Paul Weston wrote on your blog that Europe will face a civil war by the year 2025,” he said, “but I think he underestimates how soon it will be. Within five to ten years at the most Swedish society will collapse. It can’t be avoided; the Swedish welfare state is simply unsustainable.
The general discussion that followed reached a consensus on the outline of future events in the UK:
1. The British government continues its suicidal policy of promoting Multiculturalism and cracking down on British “racists”.
2. A precipitating incident by an immigrant or group of immigrants sparks violence, with mobs of angry Britons taking the law into their own hands.
3. The riot police and possibly military troops are summoned by the government to quell the “racist hooligans.”
4. At this point a true civil war has begun, with the Government and civil authorities, in tacit alliance with the Islamists, fighting native Britons.
5. Elements of the police and the military are reluctant to fight against their own countrymen — with whom they are in broad agreement — and they defect to the “racist” side of the conflict.
6. Next step…? Perhaps a full civil war?Fjordman and Gaia both felt that Britain will eventually come through the bloody conflict, and finally give up its self-destructive policies, after paying a huge price.
1. The British government continues its suicidal policy of promoting Multiculturalism and cracking down on British “racists”.
2. A precipitating incident by an immigrant or group of immigrants sparks violence, with mobs of angry Britons taking the law into their own hands.
3. The riot police and possibly military troops are summoned by the government to quell the “racist hooligans.”
4. At this point a true civil war has begun, with the Government and civil authorities, in tacit alliance with the Islamists, fighting native Britons.
5. Elements of the police and the military are reluctant to fight against their own countrymen — with whom they are in broad agreement — and they defect to the “racist” side of the conflict.
6. Next step…? Perhaps a full civil war?Fjordman and Gaia both felt that Britain will eventually come through the bloody conflict, and finally give up its self-destructive policies, after paying a huge price.
posted by jillosophy at 5/04/2007 01:10:00 PM
3 Comments:
very depressing, absolutely plausible. i am becoming very depressed about the future of our civilization. what can i/we do?
Fjordman has usual has got it smack on the money!
He knows full well that our government and politicians including sir ian blair our top cop
are all but dhimmis already with their quest to enforce this state on the rest of us.
The civil war mentioned will come i's in the air long before the 2020s
The uk lost it's democracy while Blair prentended to fight to give Iraq theirs.
Our police the indigenous would certainly be on our side as would the army!
What can we do? Wake up to the realities of islam whatever they demand say NO!
The more they gain, the more dhimmi you become in their eyes the right are bad enough but for Gods sake keep the left out!
The marx mohammed pact is not a joke we can see it here in practise speak out at all and your branded a racist.
A thick skin must be developed and fast, and learn the most important message moderate muslims do not exist otherwise they cease to be muslim.
Jihad explained inner struggle...BULL 97% WAR 3% INNER STRUGGLE, Double speak! duality is what fools westerners.
Last week we've had a 17 year old girl stabbed to death she was pregnant married for just 4 months.
She lived in a large detached house with her husband and his parents in Manchester area.
This is called an honour killing where the hell is the honour?
I'm not proud to say all i thought once i knew who they were was two less to worry about!
That is how one becomes these actors which they are cry islamophobia at the drop of an hat in their quest to shut down any critical comments at all.
Calling them islamo/fascist Bush was spot on 100%.
Now we are told by the orwellian mob at westminster and brussels words we cannot use..jihad, islamic terrorists, infact we must not mention muslims in any other than a positive way otherwise we face three years in prison also given the advice best not to look at them.
In other words we must accept the superiority of islam and give muslims the respect they don't allow to us!
collusion from politicians has brought this about and the trust in all of them is dead.
While British school children are being indoctrinated with islam daily at school we the tax payer are expected to pay for our own demise with benefit cheques to the enemy within.
The best advise i can give to AMERICA is do not trust the BBC the workforce is full of muslims and the left wing tree huggers that lie on a daily basis.
neither trust anyone from the political elitist cowards.
Imagine an unarmed population against what we know are armed islamic jihadists.
dis-armed by our own. says it all really but time will tell.
Godbless.
NATO countries in europe have reneged on thier commitments. article 5, NATO charter, "an attack on 1 member is an attack on the alliance as a whole". why does Germany not fight? the French can do much more, Italy is sitting this out, Spain has surrendered. its not only possible-but probable these NATO countries will go down without a fight, coz of thier ignorance, pol. correct bullshit, and its based around not offending thier moslem populations. they don't get it. the ONLY language they understand is VIOLENCE. they aim to see all non-moslems dead. they will overwhelm the indig. population, and thier "brothers will come swarming across W.Europe with plenty of weapons to overthrow existing Christian gov.'s. like lambs to the slaughter. these NATO countries better wake up. expel the moslems, close ur borders, arm ur indig. population. the UK, Dutch, Canadians, & Aussies will, and have been fighting. and will to keep thier cultural identity. the US population is armed to the teeth, and will kill them when the time comes. WAKE UP EUROPE!!
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