The Islamification Of The US Justice System
Defense attorneys for terrorists and their sympathizers have embarked on a crusade to cut out special privileges for Muslims within the American justice system, and consequently tie up the system in religious argument.
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August 4th, 2008
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/08/the-islamification-of-the-justice-system-ramadan-and-the-koran/
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/08/the-islamification-of-the-justice-system-ramadan-and-the-koran/
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Whether it be at the trial stage or in the penitentiary, Islam is to be accorded a special status if these abettors have their way.
Whether it be at the trial stage or in the penitentiary, Islam is to be accorded a special status if these abettors have their way.
An example of this is alluded to in an article about the vilification of Gordon Kromberg, a Federal Prosecutor, who led a series of investigations in Islamic groups in Virginia and who successfully prosecuted Sami Al Arian.
As reported in the New York Sun:
“Attorneys for a former Florida college professor who pleaded guilty two years ago to aiding Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Sami Al-Arian, are asking a federal judge to hold a hearing on whether anti-Muslim bias led to the government’s decision to obtain a new indictment of Al-Arian in June for contempt for refusing to testify before grand juries pursuing the Virginia organizations.
While the motion claims Muslim terrorism suspects are generally treated unfairly by the Justice Department, Al-Arian’s lawyers argue that Mr. Kromberg, 51, has a particularly egregious record of intemperate statements and actions in a series of terrorism-related cases and investigations.”
1.”Al-Arian’s lawyers claim that in 2006, when Mr. Kromberg moved to obtain new testimony from the former professor following his guilty plea in Florida, the prosecutor “became agitated” in response to a defense lawyer’s request that the testimony be put off until after the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. “They can kill each other during Ramadan. They can appear before the grand jury; all they can’t do is eat before sunset,” Mr. Kromberg responded, according to a declaration written by one of Al-Arian’s attorneys, Jack Fernandez. Mr. Fernandez said the prosecutor described the request for a postponement as “all part of the attempted Islamization of the American justice system.” Mr. Fernandez wrote that he viewed the comments as exhibiting “apparent bias against Muslims.”
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2.” In the case, Mr. Kromberg argued that the religious beliefs of the defendant and other witnesses made it acceptable to lie to kaffirs, or nonbelievers in Islam. “If you are a kaffir, Timimi believes in time of war, he’s supposed to lie to you,” the prosecutor told jurors. Al-Timimi was convicted of treason and sentenced to life in prison.
“Kromberg argued to the jury that Timimi and the other Muslim witnesses — their testimony should be disregarded just on the basis of their religion,” al-Timimi’s defense lawyer, Edward MacMahon Jr., said. “I think it’s an outrageous thing to argue in the courtroom. Imagine that directed at any other religion.”
We here at DBKP are fascinated by these assertions. Shocked, actually, that there is someone in the Federal Government that actually has the remotest understanding about the true nature of Islam. After listening to Bush’s laughable nonsense about Islam being a religion of peace, and reading countless print articles in the mainstream press about the accomplishments of Islam, all factually wrong and demonstrating what must be willful ignorance, it is a welcome surprise to find an individual in authority and to read what Muslims believe because Mr Kromberg is correct on both counts:
The idea that Ramadan is so special as to constitute a timeout in war or at trial is a fiction perpetrated by Muslims on the West.
From the infamous decision not to war against Islamic nations during Ramadan, to the attribution of special privileges at trial, the West has become convinced that it commits a great cultural slight by contesting a Muslim during the Ramadan month.
It is all BS.
While the Koran dictates a day fast during Ramadan, it is hardly onerous. One eats prior to sunrise and after sunset. Ramadan is characterized by nightly feasts and parties. This is when restaurants do their best business in Islamic countries. During this time, weight gain is as significant as Christmas season weight gain is in America.
There is a long tradition of Muslims attacking Christians and others during Ramadan. The idea of Ramadan being a peaceful and reflective period is absurd: Israel was invaded during Ramadan. Wikipedia has more info on Ramadan battles.
As to the proclivity of Muslims to lie, Westerners, whether Christian or not, are caught in the Judeo-Christian belief system that lying is morally wrong. This is untrue in Islam. Mr Kromberg seems acutely aware of this, and it is hoped that he will brief the Court, because the American judicial system relies on the premise that someone is telling the truth.
It seems incredible to us, but Muslims–even Muslim Police Officers–will spin the most fantastical stories in Judicial proceedings in their own countries, and are equally likely to lie in America.
Consider for a moment the defenses thrown up by CAIR for various Jihadi activities, such as CAIR’s explanation for the two Egyptian college students caught with “fireworks” in South Carolina. The pair had bombs, pipes, timers, a video on terrorist bomb attacks, and a computer with targets identified, as well as links to Jihadi sites.
According to CAIR, this constituted “fireworks”.
What the Koran, or Islam’s most Holy Book, says about lying:
“Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.”
In otherwords, one can justify any lie, and so Muslims do.
There you have it. Mr Kromberg was right on both counts, hence the attempt to villify and silence him.
Because nothing scares Islamic adherents so much as light shined upon their true beliefs and acts.
By pat
“Attorneys for a former Florida college professor who pleaded guilty two years ago to aiding Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Sami Al-Arian, are asking a federal judge to hold a hearing on whether anti-Muslim bias led to the government’s decision to obtain a new indictment of Al-Arian in June for contempt for refusing to testify before grand juries pursuing the Virginia organizations.
While the motion claims Muslim terrorism suspects are generally treated unfairly by the Justice Department, Al-Arian’s lawyers argue that Mr. Kromberg, 51, has a particularly egregious record of intemperate statements and actions in a series of terrorism-related cases and investigations.”
1.”Al-Arian’s lawyers claim that in 2006, when Mr. Kromberg moved to obtain new testimony from the former professor following his guilty plea in Florida, the prosecutor “became agitated” in response to a defense lawyer’s request that the testimony be put off until after the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. “They can kill each other during Ramadan. They can appear before the grand jury; all they can’t do is eat before sunset,” Mr. Kromberg responded, according to a declaration written by one of Al-Arian’s attorneys, Jack Fernandez. Mr. Fernandez said the prosecutor described the request for a postponement as “all part of the attempted Islamization of the American justice system.” Mr. Fernandez wrote that he viewed the comments as exhibiting “apparent bias against Muslims.”
and
2.” In the case, Mr. Kromberg argued that the religious beliefs of the defendant and other witnesses made it acceptable to lie to kaffirs, or nonbelievers in Islam. “If you are a kaffir, Timimi believes in time of war, he’s supposed to lie to you,” the prosecutor told jurors. Al-Timimi was convicted of treason and sentenced to life in prison.
“Kromberg argued to the jury that Timimi and the other Muslim witnesses — their testimony should be disregarded just on the basis of their religion,” al-Timimi’s defense lawyer, Edward MacMahon Jr., said. “I think it’s an outrageous thing to argue in the courtroom. Imagine that directed at any other religion.”
We here at DBKP are fascinated by these assertions. Shocked, actually, that there is someone in the Federal Government that actually has the remotest understanding about the true nature of Islam. After listening to Bush’s laughable nonsense about Islam being a religion of peace, and reading countless print articles in the mainstream press about the accomplishments of Islam, all factually wrong and demonstrating what must be willful ignorance, it is a welcome surprise to find an individual in authority and to read what Muslims believe because Mr Kromberg is correct on both counts:
The idea that Ramadan is so special as to constitute a timeout in war or at trial is a fiction perpetrated by Muslims on the West.
From the infamous decision not to war against Islamic nations during Ramadan, to the attribution of special privileges at trial, the West has become convinced that it commits a great cultural slight by contesting a Muslim during the Ramadan month.
It is all BS.
While the Koran dictates a day fast during Ramadan, it is hardly onerous. One eats prior to sunrise and after sunset. Ramadan is characterized by nightly feasts and parties. This is when restaurants do their best business in Islamic countries. During this time, weight gain is as significant as Christmas season weight gain is in America.
There is a long tradition of Muslims attacking Christians and others during Ramadan. The idea of Ramadan being a peaceful and reflective period is absurd: Israel was invaded during Ramadan. Wikipedia has more info on Ramadan battles.
As to the proclivity of Muslims to lie, Westerners, whether Christian or not, are caught in the Judeo-Christian belief system that lying is morally wrong. This is untrue in Islam. Mr Kromberg seems acutely aware of this, and it is hoped that he will brief the Court, because the American judicial system relies on the premise that someone is telling the truth.
It seems incredible to us, but Muslims–even Muslim Police Officers–will spin the most fantastical stories in Judicial proceedings in their own countries, and are equally likely to lie in America.
Consider for a moment the defenses thrown up by CAIR for various Jihadi activities, such as CAIR’s explanation for the two Egyptian college students caught with “fireworks” in South Carolina. The pair had bombs, pipes, timers, a video on terrorist bomb attacks, and a computer with targets identified, as well as links to Jihadi sites.
According to CAIR, this constituted “fireworks”.
What the Koran, or Islam’s most Holy Book, says about lying:
“Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.”
In otherwords, one can justify any lie, and so Muslims do.
There you have it. Mr Kromberg was right on both counts, hence the attempt to villify and silence him.
Because nothing scares Islamic adherents so much as light shined upon their true beliefs and acts.
By pat
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Source - New York Sun - Prosecutor Called Relentless
Source - New York Sun - Prosecutor Called Relentless
Source - Muslim Fact
Image - American Burka
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